David Lat is a lawyer turned legal journalist, writer, and speaker. He is the founding editor of Above the Law, one of the nation’s largest legal news websites, which reaches more than 1.5 million unique visitors a month. His writing about law and legal affairs has also appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Washington Post, among other publications.
Spencer Cox, governor of Utah, talks with Matt about the problem of viewing politics as religion, sports, and entertainment. He also discusses Utah’s COVID response, mail-in voting, and his bass guitar hobby.
Recorded at the Texas Tribune Festival, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan talks about his book, Still Standing: Surviving Cancer, Riots, a Global Pandemic, and the Toxic Politics that Divide America.