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Spencer Cox, governor of Utah, talks with Matt about the problem of viewing politics as religion, sports, and entertainment. He also discusses Utah’s COVID response, mail-in voting, and his bass guitar hobby.
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Gov. Larry Hogan on Surviving Cancer, Riots, a Global Pandemic, and Toxic Politics
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Recorded at the Texas Tribune Festival, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan talks about his book, Still Standing: Surviving Cancer, Riots, a Global Pandemic, and the Toxic Politics that Divide America.